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Please add profile for Creality Ender 3 S1 Plus #4669
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How well does the profile work when you edit the S1 Pro profile to have a print size of 300x300x300? Are there any values that should be changed for speed, acceleration, retraction, etc? |
If the mechanical side of the printers is the same. You should be ok. |
I havent printed anything with orca yet. Still in the process of moving print profiles & filaments over to Orca from Prusa. I know there is a script that does this, but I'm hesitant due to my lack of CLI skills. If something goes wrong, I wont know how to recover. |
What is the script called/located? Also if you can run a test print with the PR I created to make sure that everything works, that would be awesome! |
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I wonder why softfever decided on json rather than .ini which is what Prusa uses...
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What is the script called/located? Also if you can run a test print with the PR I created to make sure that everything works, that would be awesome!
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That won't work as there are 14 other files that were added/changed, here are a few download links for what main would be once merged: Windows portable, Linux Appimage, Mac Arm, and Mac x64 |
Not quite I understand what ya mean by "once main would be once merged" Please forgive the ignorance, I'm just a roughneck who enjoys CNC & lasers.... Do you mean if I am on the beta version instead of 1.9.1 my printer will be there? I poked around in the windows mobile zip & found the S1 Plus 0.4 Json and tried to import that, but still no dice. Same error window as before. I do appreciate ya trying to help me out. |
Because of the way that the program is setup I am 98% sure that you can't copy the .json file as you would have to also compile the software. What you need to do is to extract the Windows portable.zip and run orcaslicer.exe, which should show the Ender-3 S1 Plus. I don't recommend using this version of OrcaSlicer on a day to day biases due to still being developed. You'll see the Ender-3 S1 Plus in the stable release once that comes out and my PR has been merged. |
Gotcha, so if I wanted to see the printer now, I would just run the portable app through a "container" (forgive my incorrect verbage), until the stable release comes out.
I think I will just wait a while until things are ironed out & there is also a native way to simply import settings from Prusa directly into orca. I tried that script I mentioned with zero success. All my installations are in default locations, so dont understand nor skilled enough to know why it failed.
Will continue to use prusa until I am really bored & actually have time for the monotonous task of transferring all my settings manually to orca.
Hopefully softfever can find some sort of a solution to transfer settings via a few simple clicks for non-cli/git boneheads like myself.
Again, thank you for all your help!
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Because of the way that the program is setup I am 98% sure that you can't copy the .json file as you would have to also compile the software. What you need to do is to extract the Windows portable.zip and run orcaslicer.exe, which should show the Ender-3 S1 Plus. I don't recommend using this version of OrcaSlicer on a day to day biases due to still being developed. You'll see the Ender-3 S1 Plus in the stable release once that comes out and my PR has been merged.
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Yes, that is correct
That is fine, however if you or @vgdh can do a test print with this new profile that would be greatly appreciated so that I can fix any simple issues that might arise when you or someone else uses this profile. |
I changed a few things: Windows portable |
For whatever reason it was zipped inside of a zip, but I did get the latest version you sent working. I'm moving over my "fast" profile from prusa to orca manually, will slice a benchy and let ya know how it turns out.
Side note... I only checked the box for .4 nozzle, but it added all the nozzle sizes. Also the bed is model & texture is off. It is looking like a standard S1/E3v2 rather than a S1 Plus. The bed on the S1 Plus is exactly like this & is PC than PEI https://www.amazon.com/Ender-Frosted-Magnetic-Flexible-310x315mm/dp/B0B8HDRSYF/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1XEAG8YC8NGSW&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.mXQZtPbjqthoaGM6ok7ZoAxkmKsWXODYOe_bMxPeWLuDKfmu_9xMQmwTyM1FeBJpPcpfJ-XkCAkvSnRveOjrkkxV4CeYUJQ3BadtZ1jo0xMa3BYtiaoAPm0ZylyJyUmlTXIQSZXMvC4MEEONhuaKih-5t8ifR3eXaaKx8X_6RCuY-bcIm2oucr6AVd1L3mpjTvJd0Rsd1FKRIrFA4sdrmTtULWQxX5PI3ajJrfAus-c.SYd5tWdRJD-lODMaXqLhtuFgTtEQg7Xh0cxEh-xr5_w&dib_tag=se&keywords=s1+plus+bed&qid=1711324329&sprefix=s1+plus+be%2Caps%2C176&sr=8-1
It would be even better if you a 300x300 border can be added outside the bed grid to show limits.
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Thx, I'll look into it, I think I fixed the issue with all four nozzles being added with only one chosen.
Do you mean fixing the bed model/texture? |
Yes the bed model/texture. Prusa used to have an exact replica, but dissapeared somehow. I made my own less desirable one using a CR10 model & ender 3 texture. Does the job, but Prusa's initial one was much better.
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Side note... I only checked the box for .4 nozzle, but it added all the nozzle sizes. Also the bed is model & texture is off. It is looking like a standard S1/E3v2 rather than a S1 Plus. The bed on the S1 Plus is exactly like this & is PC than PEI https://www.amazon.com/Ender-Frosted-Magnetic-Flexible-310x315mm/dp/B0B8HDRSYF/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1XEAG8YC8NGSW&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.mXQZtPbjqthoaGM6ok7ZoAxkmKsWXODYOe_bMxPeWLuDKfmu_9xMQmwTyM1FeBJpPcpfJ-XkCAkvSnRveOjrkkxV4CeYUJQ3BadtZ1jo0xMa3BYtiaoAPm0ZylyJyUmlTXIQSZXMvC4MEEONhuaKih-5t8ifR3eXaaKx8X_6RCuY-bcIm2oucr6AVd1L3mpjTvJd0Rsd1FKRIrFA4sdrmTtULWQxX5PI3ajJrfAus-c.SYd5tWdRJD-lODMaXqLhtuFgTtEQg7Xh0cxEh-xr5_w&dib_tag=se&keywords=s1+plus+bed&qid=1711324329&sprefix=s1+plus+be%2Caps%2C176&sr=8-1
Thx, I'll look into it, I think I fixed the issue with all four nozzles being added with only one chosen.
It would be even better if you a 300x300 border can be added outside the bed grid to show limits.
Do you mean fixing the bed model/texture?
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LOVE IT!
I'm having trouble navigating. I am searching for how to modify the output of my gcode. Also is there a way I can send the gcode to my printer directly into a specific directory but not print yet? This was easily done through PS.
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Yes the bed model/texture. Prusa used to have an exact replica, but dissapeared somehow. I made my own less desirable one using a CR10 model & ender 3 texture. Does the job, but Prusa's initial one was much better.
How does the Ender-3 V3 SE bed model/texture look?
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Looking for this....
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How does the Ender-3 V3 SE bed model/texture look?
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FOUND IT!
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Now this is the last thing I am after before I send it to be printed....
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I am currently compiling a new version of the software and hopefully, it fixes all the issues you found so far |
I found the output section and I see the upload section just like PS... However I did have an issue with just copying my PS output string to Orca. It didnt work and thats howcome I was pestering about the directory. The output string I use in PS is as follows.
{input_filename_base}_{print_time}_${total_cost}_{total_weight}g_{temperature[0]}C_{filament_type[0]}_{printer_model}.gcode
Where did my original string go wrong in orca?
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I am currently compiling a new version of the software and hopefully, it fixes all the issues you found so far
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It may be the ".gcode" string at the end, I don't know much when it comes to that area of the slicer, I recommend asking around if you don't find a solution. Also, the Bed Mesh leveling may not happen when you start a print as I just found that issue and it takes around 40 minutes for the code to recompile. |
TY for letting me know that, allthough I use BED_MESH_PROFILE LOAD=default in my start gcode.
First print didnt stick and failed right away. I also noticed movement is much slower compared to the settings I have in PS which I copied over.
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Where did my original string go wrong in orca?
It may be the ".gcode" string at the end, I don't know much when it comes to that area of the slicer, I recommend asking around if you don't find a solution. Also, the Bed Mesh leveling may not happen when you start a print as I just found that issue and it takes around 40 minutes for the code to recompile.
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One thing that would be MASSIVELY helpful is a search function like PS. It comes in soooo handy to find the setting you want.
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It may be the ".gcode" string at the end, I don't know much when it comes to that area of the slicer, I recommend asking around if you don't find a solution. Also, the Bed Mesh leveling may not happen when you start a print as I just found that issue and it takes around 40 minutes for the code to recompile.
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Orca Slicer does have a search function, although it is broken up into three different setting locations. I'll keep it in mind though, might add an overall search function if I get time ;) |
Yeah a simple magnifying glass in the tool bar, totally sufficient.
I think I found my speed issues... It seems you have to have a higher speed rate in machine limits rather than just telling the slicer to ignore them.
Reslicing, re-doing z-offset and will see what happens.
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One thing that would be MASSIVELY helpful is a search function like PS. It comes in soooo handy to find the setting you want.
Orca Slicer does have a search function, although it is broken up into three different setting locations. I'll keep it in mind though, might add an overall search function if I get time ;)
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Do you want z-hop to only work on the top surfaces? |
Yes on an as needed basis.
I usually keep it turned off for the most part, however there are times when I do need to enable it. I usually set an above & below, but a simple check box for top surfaces only (regardless of layer height i.e. 3 separate tops at different heights would all have zhop on for that layer, but then turned off after that layer has been cleared by the nozzle.)
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However I do feel it should remain OFF by default.
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I'll add it into the profile, also there is a drop down checkbox in the main printer profile that allows you to change were z-hop is used. |
About 10mins left on the 2nd benchy...
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I'll do that instead |
Benchy is done, other than the forementioned issues. The print turned out great! Should give a newb a great baseline and able to get a quality print straight away without tweeking anything.
My only MAJOR gripe thus far is that I am unable to edit my travel acceleration to my desired rate. Its kinda like, its my machine let me do what I want especially if its within machine limits.
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However I do feel it should remain OFF by default.
I'll do that instead
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So, to change your machine's max travel acceleration in the slicer, you need to have Marlin 2 on your printer. However, as you have Klipper installed, you need to make sure that your G-Code flavor is Klipper and you then can edit the travel acceleration under the speed tab once you set the value of "Normal Printing" acceleration. Klipper handles the maximum acceleration in the printer.cfg file. |
Great! I should have a new version that I can give you tomorrow before I mark the PR as ready to be merged. This new version should change retraction/detraction speed, and retraction length, and hopefully disable z_hop. I'll work with SoftFever or someone else to fix the weird bed texture/model issues. |
I did have klipper flavor selected as marlin would give me annoying errors in the console & well I am flashed to klipper. Also in my printer.cfg my max accel is 5k.
My max print limit is 2.5K, however I want to travel at 5k. Orca does not allow me to do this and caps my speeds... Prusa Does allow it right off the bat.
Upon your suggestion I switched to marlin2, entered 5K, then switched back to klipper and it seems to have stuck.
Im currently messing with my printer.cfg after installing new parts so machine will be down for a bit. I just wanted to get those 2 benchies done for you so you can get a profile in place for stock users.
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My only MAJOR gripe thus far is that I am unable to edit my travel acceleration to my desired rate. Its kinda like, its my machine let me do what I want especially if its within machine limits.
So, to change your machine's max travel acceleration in the slicer, you need to have Marlin 2 on your printer. However, as you have Klipper installed, you need to make sure that your G-Code flavor is Klipper and you then can edit the travel acceleration under the speed tab once you set the value of "Normal Printing" acceleration. Klipper handles the maximum acceleration in the printer.cfg file.
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One last bug I did notice... in the device area, If I went full screen cam mode I could not get it normal size again either by clicking the screen arrow icon (dunno what its called) or by pressing esc. I only got out of it by clicking my klipper logo.
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Benchy is done, other than the forementioned issues. The print turned out great! Should give a newb a great baseline and able to get a quality print straight away without tweeking anything.
Great! I should have a new version that I can give you tomorrow before I mark the PR as ready to be merged. This new version should change retraction/detraction speed, and retraction length, and hopefully disable z_hop. I'll work with SoftFever or someone else to fix the weird bed texture/model issues.
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Strange, hopefully, this gets fixed soon. Let me know if you still get the error of all nozzle versions being added when you only select one in this new version |
Will do.. Should I remove the Printer User Profiles as well when I go to re-add?
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One last bug I did notice... in the device area, If I went full screen cam mode I could not get it normal size again either by clicking the screen arrow icon (dunno what its called) or by pressing esc. I only got out of it by clicking my klipper logo.
Strange, hopefully, this gets fixed soon.
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I think that'll be best to limit any possible issues, make sure to make a backup of any profiles you made so they don't get lost. |
That the thing... I CANT!!!! remember my export bug I was having? LOL
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I think that'll be best to limit any possible issues, make sure to make a backup of any profiles you made so they don't get lost.
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I can copy/replace the file if you can provide a path.
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Oh yea, lol, you can still take pictures if that would help you. The export bug should hopefully be fixed before the stable release of 2.0 |
I don't recommend that as when ever I tried to do that the program ended up bugging out |
Copy.... Screenshots it is then I guess....
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I can copy/replace the file if you can provide a path.
I don't recommend that as when ever I tried to do that the program ended up bugging out
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Great news upon opening it up.... The bed shape has now changed! However there is a weird step like artifact in the upper left...
My printer profile im not worried about loosing as I can re enter that from memory... Its the Print profiles (layers, speed, strenghth etc) that would suck to have to re enter. Should I screenshot/remove those as well before re-adding the printer?
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I can copy/replace the file if you can provide a path.
I don't recommend that as when ever I tried to do that the program ended up bugging out
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If they are based off the profiles that are being worked on, then yes. As you'll need to remove those profiles, which will most likely remove anything built off of them, before extracting and trying the new version. |
That is part of the original model that I sized up for some reason. It shouldn't be noticeable once I get the texture working. |
😭 Why wont you work export?!?!?!
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If they are based off the profiles that are being worked on, then yes. As you'll need to remove those profiles, which will most likely remove anything built off of them, before extracting and trying the new version.
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The unfortunate ordeals of a development build 😔 |
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The unfortunate ordeals of a development build 😔
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Take all the time you need! Get that money! |
Ii'm back....
Unfortunately no dice with the single nozzle.
This was my process... Delete all printers & print profiles for the S1 Plus (I left my Ender 3 V2 installed as all I have done with it is connect to moonraker its totally stock settings other than connection and a 230mm height). closed the program. Deleted the entire orca folder. Created a new folder on my C drive rather than D.
Unpacked the archive in new folder. Executed the program went to add the S1 Plus 0.4 nozzle and once again all nozzle sizes appeared in the pulldown.
I was able to however Create a new machine using creality vendor and s1 plus model using a 0.4 nozzle. I was also able to load the S1plusbed.stl to get the bed shape. (Adding a S1plus normally also produces the correct bed shape.) However regardless, the SVG texture is not showing up on top of the bed surface, but rather the bottom of the bed.
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Ok, I think I fixed all the remaining issues. It should be ready to merge after I do one last check! Thank you for all of your help! |
Awesome! Glad I could lend a hand in development of software I will surely use.
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Ok, I think I fixed all the remaining issues. It should be ready to merge after I do one last check! Thank you for all of your help!
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Is there an existing issue for this feature request?
Is your feature request related to a problem?
The entire S1 line has been added except for the often left out S1 Plus.
Which printers will be beneficial to this feature?
All
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The entire S1 line has been added except for the often left out S1 Plus.
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